Sunday, September 21, 2008

Journal Entry #4

1. What does Bartholomae mean when he says that students must "invent the university" when they write in college?

I think he means that students have to be able to change their way of writing depending on who de audience is and depending on what the topic is. I think he means that students have to try to put themselves in the audience position and try do understand how different people works. I also think that he means that students have to think more about what they are writing and try to write with more variety.

2. What does Bartholomae suggest is a way for students to become "insiders" within academic discourse?

Students need to learn to extend themselves into the commonplaces, set phrases, rituals, gestures, habits of mind, tricks of persuasion, obligatory conclusions, and necessary connections that determine the “what might be said” and constitute knowledge within the various branches of our academic community.

3. Summarize some of the differences between the two examples of student writing that Bartholomae examines, and Bartholomae's opinion of these examples.


I think that their topics of what they did that they thought were creative was very different. I alss think that they first person is a lot more positive, and think that almost every time you come up with a new idea you're being creative. The vocabulary is very different, and a lot more qualificated in the second essay. Bartholomae's opinion is that he tinks that the first paper is not very elegant but it's tidy and smooth. About the other paper Bartholomae think that the style is difficult and highly qualified.

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